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In 1982, Anwar Sadat traveled to Israel, a trip that resulted in a peace agreement that has lasted ever since. In the spirit of that type of bold leadership...would you be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders...of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, and North Korea, in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries? -I should also point out that Stephen is in the crowd tonight. Senator Obama?-I would. And the reason is this, that the notion that somehow... not talking to countries is punishment to them - which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration - is ridiculous. Now, Ronald Reagan and Democratic presidents like JFK constantly spoke to Soviet Union at a time when Ronald Reagan called them an evil empire. And the reason is because they understood that we may not trust them and they may pose an extraordinary danger to this country, but we had the obligation... to find areas where we can potentially move forward. And I think that it is a disgrace that we have not spoken to them. We’ve been talking about Iraq... one of the first things that I would do in terms of moving a diplomatic effort in the region forward is to send a signal that we need to talk to Iran and Syria... because they’re going to have responsibilities if Iraq collapses. They have been acting irresponsibly up until this point. But if we tell them... that we are not going to be a permanent occupying force, we are in a position to say that they are going to have to carry some weight in terms of stabilizing the region. -I just want to check in with Stephen **** if he believes he got an answer to his question? -I seem to have a microphone in my hand. Well, I’d be interested in knowing what Hillary has to say to that question.-Senator Clinton? Well, I will not promise to meet with the leaders of these countries during my first year. I will promise a very vigorous diplomatic effort because I think...it is not that you promise a meeting at that high a level before you know what the intentions are. I don’t want to be used for propaganda purposes. I don’t want to make a situation even worse. But I certainly agree that we need to get back to diplomacy, which has been turned into a bad word by this administration. And I will pursue very vigorous diplomacy. And I will use a lot of high-level presidential envoys to test the waters, to feel the way. But certainly, we’re not going to just have our president meet with Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez and, you know, the president of North Korea-...Iran, and Syria until we know better what the way forward would be.-Senator Edwards, would you meet with Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, Kim Jong Il? Yes, and I think actually Senator Clinton’s right though. Before that meeting takes place, we need to do the work, the diplomacy, to make sure...that that meeting’s not going to be used for propaganda purposes, will not be used to just beat down the United States of America in the world community.But I think this is just a piece of a bigger question, which is, what do we actually do? What should the President of the United States do...to restore America’s moral leadership in the world? It’s not enough just to lead with bad leaders. In addition to that, the world needs to hear...from the President of the United States about who we are...- Time.-...what it is we representThat, in fact, we believe in equality, we believe in diversity; that they are at the heart and soul of what the United States of America is.